Today, I delighted to be joined by one of the most joyful people I know- poet, Laura Mucha, whose poetry book, ‘Dear Ugly Sisters and other poems’ won the NSTBA poetry category in 2021. This collection has proved incredibly popular with teachers and children alike. As well as contributing to various collections, Laura has also collaborated with two of my other favourite children’s poets on the wonderful ‘Being Me’, an excellent resource for teachers and parents as well as being a brilliant read!

1.     One of my favourite poems to share with children is ‘Travel by Book’. Which is your favourite book to travel by – and you can only choose one!

The book that pops into my head is Celebrate! which I wrote with the British Museum during the various lockdowns.

Instead of sitting in my gardenless flat in London, researching and writing Celebrate! meant I was in Botswana, Argentina, China and lots of other places I had travelled to before the pandemic hit. It REALLY helped me stay positive because it allowed me to travel the world, even though I was actually locked inside. 

2.     I have always loved poetry and my head is full of snippets of my favourites which come to me in moments of need! Have you always been drawn to poetry and if so, which are your childhood favourites?

Growing up, I read English books with Mum and Polish books with my grandparents. I still remember the line ‘whips a pistol from her knickers’ from Roald Dahl’s Revolting Rhymes and REALLY loved his language and humour.

But I think my favourite book was Stefek Burczymucha by Maria Konopnicka. I still have my original copy… It’s a poetic picture book about a boy who pretends to be ridiculously brave and describes all the things he’d do to various scary animals. But at the end, you discover he’s actually petrified of a teeny tiny mouse. It’s written in fantastic metre and rhyme, which I think you can still enjoy even if you don’t speak Polish. And I love the way it explores the difference between what we say and what we actually feel or do.

3.     In your collection, ‘Dear Ugly Sisters and other poems’, you share poems in a number of forms- haiku, acrostic, shape. Do you have a favourite to use or do your ideas take shape in a particular form as they come to you?

Weirdly, a lot of poems come out as: tee TUM tee TUM tee TUM tee TUM. It’s called iambic tetrameter, and sometimes I wonder if that’s what my internal metronome is set to?!

But I think variety in a poetry collection is VERY important, so I tried to write in different forms so the book didn’t start to feel monotonous.  

Not ALL my poems come out in strict metre. Quite often they seem to demand their own shape and form, and it feels like my job to figure out what they’re after. It’s odd to talk about poems as if they have a personality but it does feel like that sometimes!?    

4.     Do you write books- fiction or non-fiction- as well as poetry?

I write fiction for younger children, and non-fiction for all ages, from preschool to adult. My plan is to write fiction for older children and young people too, but I have quite a lot of non-fiction books to finish first...

I used to be a lawyer, so maybe that's why I love doing LOTS of research and trying to find the simplest way possible to communicate big ideas. I spend a massive amount of time writing and rewriting to try to make language help understanding, instead of stand in the way of it.

Poetic technique plays a HUGE role in that, even when I’m writing prose. Poetry influences everything I write and I often send what are probably quite annoying notes to my editors talking about metre even when a book doesn't have a single poem in it.

5.     Why do you think poetry is important- particularly for children?

I love the musicality of poetry. I think it can help make words feel more friendly, more accessible, more joyful, more memorable. So I think poetry has an important role to play in language development.

I think the smallness of poetry can be really helpful in exploring and containing difficult thoughts, feelings and experiences that might otherwise feel scary or overwhelming to a child or young person (or adult). It never ceases to amaze me that a small package of words can help clarify something difficult in our lives, change the way we think and help us know we are not alone.

A poem’s smallness is also a great way into learning how to write. I love co-writing poems with large groups of students, going through the messy start of the creative process to the brutal decision making that’s involved in editing, followed by the challenges of performing. Poems are a great way to learn all of that. I don’t think I could achieve anything near that trying to co-write a chapter with a hundred students in a short space of time.

But despite its many benefits, I think a lot of people see poetry as intimidating or difficult and I would love to change that. 

Photos taken during the on-line launch of ‘Shaping the World’.

6.     What can you tell me about what are you working on at the moment?

I’m in the process of finalising three books: the first is Celebrate! that I mentioned earlier. The second is Welcome to our Table, a book about food around the world for children. I co-wrote it with my husband who is a food writer and learnt a GIGANTIC amount doing it.

The third is a book for adults about how our upbringings impact us throughout life. I joined a research group at Cambridge University to try to understand all the many, MANY complexities of the subject – and to make sure I don’t get it wrong! It’s taken me about 5 years so far and I’m looking forward to finishing...

I’m also working on a series of full colour poetry-non-fiction books for Hachette. The first is called Scary and looks at creatures that seem scary before exploring why they aren’t, or why they’re scary because they’re scared, or why they’re actually really interesting. It also explores the science of fear. Fear plays a major role in our lives, and I don’t think we do enough to support young people in understanding how it works or how to manage it.

7.     And lastly- and most importantly according to my niece- what is your favourite cake?

When I was little, my grandma used to bake cakes and one of my favourite things EVER IN LIFE was to lick the bowl. It didn’t really matter what the cake was, as long as it was uncooked and dolloped on my finger!  

Another favourite cake is anything my mum makes me for my birthday. She always goes all out and creates slightly bonkers iced bonanzas. When my very first book came out, she made a cake that looked just like the book cover. She’s also made me a cake that featured a swimming pool in it!?

I don't think I've answered your question. If I had to choose one type of cake, I would go for cornflake cakes when they’re smothered in dark chocolate. I think they are DELICIOUS! In fact, I might make some right now…

Thank you so much to Laura for joining me today! I can’t wait to read ‘Celebrate!’ and we must get together for a cake making (and eating!) fest sometime soon!!

You can read my review of ‘Dear Ugly Sisters…’ here including a link to some teaching notes to go with some of the poems.

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